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It Starts With Heart
195 - Take the risk : Amanda's Journey of Navigating Life's Challenges to Find Business Success
Have you ever stood at the crossroads of a life-changing decision, your heart pounding with equal parts fear and excitement? This is the essence of Amanda's story, our featured guest, whose journey of resilience and passion mirrors the lives of many who seek triumph over life's adversities.
As a full-time carer for her daughter with complex health needs, Amanda's skepticism of network marketing swiftly transformed into a thriving career that allowed her to weave her love for family with a drive for success. Through her narrative, we explore the power of a compelling 'why' and how it can become the fuel for ambition, blending personal connection and career into a harmonious symphony of fulfillment.
A leap of faith is often marked by a thin line between financial struggle and the sweet taste of achievement. Our conversation takes a candid look at those critical moments of decision-making that define our trajectory. She reflects on how prioritizing what truly matters can carve the path to long-term rewards and a future free of regrets.
It's a testament to the strength found in community support—how the encouragement and shared successes within a network can be the backbone for those managing personal endeavors alongside intense family commitments.
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Hello everyone. It is Rebecca here again, and I am here with a very, very special guest. This week. I'm going to be introducing you to the amazing Amanda. So Amanda is one of our core leaders within the organisation. She is someone who is such a big part of the team. She's so ambitious, so driven. She has a deep-rooted why as to why she's doing the business, and I cannot wait for you to hear a little bit more about her and her story. She's just requested. Huge welcome, Rosa and Mary Lisa. Everyone else who's joining us today. Welcome, Rosa and Mary Lisa. Everyone else who's joining us today Cannot wait for this interview, just waiting for Amanda to come live. Hi, how are you doing? I'm good. How are you? Yeah, really, really good. Thank you, Still loving this weather. Is it nice where you are as well? Yeah, it's a bit cloudy today. It's still warm, though. Oh yeah, well, at least it's better than what we normally get in, like the uk, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yes oh well, thank you so much for jumping on here, because I know that you are so busy and obviously like with your little ones and stuff and I know you're going to tell us a little bit more about that. But just for anyone who doesn't know who you are, can you tell us a little bit about you? Any hobbies, interests?
Speaker 2:yeah, so obviously my name's Amanda. I am originally from Scotland but moved down to North West about a year and a half ago with my husband and two children. So I've got a five-year-old boy, noah, and a two-and-a-half-year-old Esme. So my background I worked overseas for quite a while when I left um school and college and things um as a kids club rep. So I worked in all the um holiday clubs and things with the kids, absolutely loved it. Um went traveling for quite a while and then when I came back I fell pregnant with Noah very quickly um, and then when Noah was born, started um a career in baby and preschool swim teaching, which I absolutely loved. So I done that for about two years and then fell pregnant with Esme and then when Esme was born, we were kind of catapulted into a world that we had no idea what was going on.
Speaker 2:So for anyone that doesn't know my story, my daughter Esme suffered from I think called HIE at birth. So she suffered from lack of oxygen which has caused her to have brain damage which means she has very, very complex health needs. So she's got cerebral palsy alongside loads of other things, which basically meant that I couldn't go back to work. I tried for a little bit. I tried to go on bank register to still do swimming and different things, and it was just too much we had too many appointments, too much things going on that I eventually made the decision just to leave my job as a swim teacher. Initially I was absolutely devastated and I had no idea how I was ever going to get into anything, um, until I came across two people so yourself and Grace on social media who were doing this opportunity. Um, and I just knew that I had to. I had to give it a go.
Speaker 1:I mean, it took me a while, but I knew that I had to give it a go and see, see what was going on oh well, thank you so much for sharing that and a little bit about your background and stuff, because I know it's going to be able to relate to so many people and there's loads I want to talk about and loads of stuff I want to pick your brains about as well. But before I go into that, you just said about it taking you a while to join the business, even though you knew it was something that was going to benefit you, and you thought it was a massive scam, didn't you? Let's be frank, yes, I remember being on a zoom call with you for literally like two hours, answering every single question, going so just curious. So what was it, um, about it that made you so skeptical? But then, why was you still on the zoom? I don't think I've ever asked you this, but what was she even doing on the Zoom if you were so sceptical?
Speaker 2:I think partly because I knew I needed something. So I was so set on kind of being Esme's full-time carer and doing everything with her that I knew that I was struggling a bit. And I knew so it was kind of a similar situation to when we were in COVID. So during COVID I obviously couldn't work as a baby and preschool swim teacher, which meant I was at home with a one-year-old. That was pretty crazy and I started kind of struggling with my mental health. So getting out of COVID, getting back into my job, everything kind of changed and I was really happy again. So then when I then had to quit my job again, I thought I can't do this. I can't just be a stay-at-home mom slash parent carer. And I knew that I needed something for me. But I just didn't know. I didn't know how I was going to be able to make anything work.
Speaker 2:And I did dabble a little bit in network marketing with another company previous, and that was when I was still working and it was selling products, which is fine, but for me I think I just didn't have a passion for it. I really liked it for the first kind of two, three months because I was getting family and friends coming and buying stuff from me because it was a new business. And then it just kind of dwindled down and I thought I can't do this. I don't have time to be constantly posting on social media all the time about products that I'm not actually interested in. So when I quit that I just kind of left thinking that I'd failed and that that was not for me. So when I seen the travel opportunity, I was like that all sounds amazing, but it's network marketing. So I was like no kind of don't believe in it. And I kind of got stuck in a hole on Google where I seen all these anti MLM stuff and how people it's only people at the top that make money in a pyramid scheme and everything that everybody goes through was in my head. But obviously I knew you from Instagram.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I'd followed Grace on Instagram for a while and I thought, well, if they're doing it, there must be something in it. Because, like, grace wouldn't have spoke to me about something that was a scam, because I totally trust her anyway and I trust you. So I was like, okay, let's hear a little bit more about it. And I think on the zoom call, although I had a million questions, I was still really interested, but then I am one of these people that then have to know everything. So then I'm like, okay, so what are the reviews on it? I'm then going to go back and look at all the reviews and then, of course, you find all of the bad ones. So then I was like, okay, no, I can't do it, um.
Speaker 2:So I think that I think that was the main, the main thing, I think. The fact that it was network marketing, um, and obviously you do see all this stuff online constantly. It's a bit of a stigma, isn't it? Network market? Everyone's just like, no, it'll never work. Um, and we weren't in a position where we had a lot of money, because obviously I wasn't working. So in the back of my head, I was a bit worried that if I let, if, like, if I joined and paid that initial fee, then I was just going to end up wasting all this money that we didn't have. Um.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I think that was why, yeah and thanks for being so transparent about that as well, because ultimately, that's what's probably going through people, like other people's heads as well, isn't it like you?
Speaker 1:yeah pretty much every single thing that people think about. You thought about during that time and just thinking about the business. But it was from like my perspective, when I was like obviously, in the discussions with you, it was like just randomly, it wasn't even like an overnight change, it was like in a split second. It was I think it might have been on the zoom or after this, not long after and something just like switched. It was like your brain just went from really skeptical to then just like savage mode and you were just like, no matter what, I'm building this and I'm gonna like change my family's life and I'm gonna help all these people. What was that final turning point that just sort of tipped you over the edge, where you just thought, do you know what I'm going?
Speaker 2:all in, I think the main thing probably was that. So before we had the zoom call, I'd obviously spoke to Grace and yourself about it previously. Anyway, I'd followed you both on social media for years before I even said, yeah, let's have a zoom call. And I think over that time I was so skeptical. But then in the back of my head I was still thinking about it. Um, and I said to Kieran, my husband I said, um, there's something about this. I was like because if it was a scam and I wasn't interested, why am I still constantly thinking about it? Um, and he said to me he's like if you're still thinking about it, just do it. And I was like, but I can't. What about the money? We can't afford it, we can't this. And then I had a million excuses as to why. And he's like if you want to do it, just do it.
Speaker 2:And I think, having the support from him at the beginning, even though he knew financially we probably couldn't afford it either. But then ultimately I think I don't know, something just kind of clicked in my head where I thought, if I don't do anything now, in five years time we're going to be in exactly the same position. I'm still going to be at home looking after Esme. She's going to be five years older, we're still going to be struggling and I didn't really have any other options. So I was like I kind of feel like I need to just give it a go. Um, so yeah, I think Kieran kind of I think having his support kind of helped me just be like no, okay, he's happy that I'm doing it, let's just do it and go for it, I think. And then I knew that I didn't want to fail at it again, which is why I was like no, I'm all in.
Speaker 1:I will do anything that I possibly can. Yeah, love that. And someone just wrote as well in the chat Rosa. Yes, oh my god, I feel like this. And it's because it's just so relatable to people, isn't it? Because there is an initial investment. It's 200 to sign up, isn't it so? Approximately 156 pounds if you're in, if you're in the UK.
Speaker 1:Um, and some people look at that as like, well, some people it's it's nothing, is it like? Some people like, oh, it's cost me more to go on a night out or whatever, but for people who are, like, maybe in the situation like you was in, or people who are in other circumstances where they might not have, like, a high paid job, or they might not be able to work because they're looking after family members or children, like yourself and there might be, that might be a lot of money to some people. So what would you say was, like, the thing that made you think, yeah, it's, it's worth it, because you spoke about, obviously, about change, like if nothing changes, nothing changes. So what point did you think it was valuable? Because I think this is going to be really helpful as well, especially because we're going to talk a bit more. I'm going to ask you some questions about some of the people who you want to help. But for anyone who's in a similar situation thinking you know what, I'm not investing in something to basically, like people say to me I don't want to pay to work how would you answer that in your scenario?
Speaker 2:I don't. I think I mean my mindset over the last kind of year and a half has changed massively on this anyway. So 156 pound to me now I'm like, oh yeah, it's not that big actually. But I think at that time we we were struggling just with normal bills and like I was like there's no way I can pay that to pay for a service or a subscription, essentially that I don't know if it's going to work. So I think the first thing was having the 30-day money-back guarantee was a massive thing because I thought this gives me four weeks to fully invest everything into it. And then if at the end of the four weeks I think, no, actually it's not for me, then at least I know I can get that money back. And I think ultimately, when I started I knew that that was never going to be the case and I knew that I was going to sign up and I wasn't going to kind of go back in 30 days and be like, nah, I knew that I was all in anyway.
Speaker 2:But I think now, looking at it from my perspective, like with how crazy our life can get we spend money on takeaways all the time because we can be out all day we can be doing something, and then we're like crap, what we have for dinner tonight, like we've not even organized anything, and we're like, oh, we'll just get a takeaway, and it could be 20, 30, 40 quid on a takeaway and I think if we are doing that multiple times a month, we've essentially just paid for a membership. Yeah, which is bizarre, um, and I think at the time when I first signed up, I didn't really quite click on to that um. I actually use a credit card to sign up because I physically didn't have the money. Um, but when I did have that switch and that, no, do you know what? I think this is going to change our lives. I thought, well, if I can put this on my credit card and work super, super hard at it, then I know that it's going to be a worthwhile investment. And, to be honest, even the monthly fee scared the crap out of me because I was like, oh my gosh, like what if I don't make this work? And then we've got like 46 pound a month to pay um, so I think that's a lot as well, but again, that is literally the equivalent of one or two takeaways.
Speaker 2:So I think if you kind of look at your priorities, into what you can scale back on. Like don't get me wrong, we're still having takeaways now because life happens but I think just like prioritizing, like what you actually are spending your money on. Um. Like that monthly fee has been coming out of my account for a year and a half now. I've essentially covered that by the income that I've got coming in, but ultimately it's not even something that I think about, um, because I know that in five years time I'm not even going to be even looking at a measly 46 pound in my bank account. Um. So, yeah, I think it's just about prioritizing and just thinking that if you're in a situation now where you don't have money, what are you doing to change it? Because if you're not doing anything to change it, then you are still going to be in the same situation, and I know for us that's not going to be the case.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah oh, I love that. Thank you for that answer, and can you just tell, um, tell us a little bit about your journey in the business? So you've signed up, you've got started completely transparently ups down, successes, um, and then a little bit about the people who you you want to help. So I know you've got a really specific niche as well yeah.
Speaker 2:So I got started december 2022. I think it was, of course, bizarre time to start, coming up to christ, christmas and everything else. People are probably thinking, absolutely not. But for some reason that was the moment that it clicked and I thought no, I'm signing up. Um, so I signed up and I think I probably worked, done all the training and everything, initially, um, and then probably over Christmas and New Year, I think it was kind of on the back burner a little bit.
Speaker 2:But come January, um, I knew that I was all in. So I was literally messaging people and I knew kind of from the start that although I wanted to build a travel business, the booking, the travel, wasn't my, it wasn't really what I wanted to do in terms of to build an income. I knew that the income was going to be the residual income and helping other people. So I kind of went full and kind of starting with that, and so I think I got my first sign up in February, and so, like two months into the business, I got my first sign up and which for me was a massive thing because I felt like I'd been grafting for like over a month and getting nowhere. And so first sign up in February and then it was quite slow after that. And so I feel like I I've pretty much been consistent for the last year and a half. I've sent messages to people every single day. I've constantly been posted on social media, um, regardless of what's going on in life. I've been on zoom calls. I've been doing everything that I possibly can, um, and I think up until last year I really, really struggled with the fact that my business wasn't growing as fast as I wanted it to, and I think part of that comes to comparing to other people.
Speaker 2:So obviously we've got an amazing support group, but sometimes in that support group you want to celebrate other people, but then at the same time, you're thinking, well, why are they getting it? And I'm not. And obviously everyone's journey is different, but I think last year that was a massive, massive struggle for me, and as much as I was trying to celebrate everyone else, I was like, oh, I just want to get my business going, um, so I was kind of getting signups here and there, and then I went to your mindset mastery course, and then was that November last year. Um, yeah, and I hadn't hit gold by then. Um, and I was like there's something stopping me. I've been in the business nearly a year now and I'm not where I want to be.
Speaker 2:Um, and from doing your mindset course, I kind of realized that actually it was me that was stopping me. Um, that although I had the full belief that I was never going to quit, something in the back of my mind was saying no, you can't do this. No, you can't do this. You've been in the business for a year and it's not working. You can't do this. And so I think, just kind of doing all the mindset stuff, changing my belief, and that no, no matter what happens, I'm going to do this um kind of pushed me forward a little bit. So then, not long after that, I then hit gold and then I got my 10th team member, which which took me into the top 2%, and I think from then on, my mindset is just in such a better place now.
Speaker 2:My business still isn't moving as fast as I want it to move, but essentially I've kind of realized that our life doesn't allow me to be spending every minute of every day working my business like some people might be able to. I can get up at five o'clock in the morning, six o'clock in the morning and send out messages and get on the inv calls and be like, yes, I'm gonna get so much done today, and then by seven o'clock I'm like, actually that's not gonna happen. And then it gets to seven o'clock in the evening and I've done nothing apart from the stuff that I done at six o'clock in the morning. Um, so I think it's just about realizing that my life is completely different to everyone else's, um, and that I can make it work regardless. Um. So yeah, I've kind of taken that approach now, and I think when I first started as well, I was kind of focusing on trying to help other people that travel, get into the travel business, whereas now I am fully focusing on the people that I want to help, um, so that is, anyone that's in the same situation as me, whether they've got kids that have got a disability, whether they've got ADHD, autism I mean, I never mentioned it, but Noah is suspected ADHD and autism as well.
Speaker 2:So life is pretty hectic and I think I just hear a lot of people constantly saying I feel so stuck, I'm a parent carer, I don't have time, I can't work, feel so stuck, I'm a parent carer, I don't have time, I can't work, and I've seen reels all over Instagram of people saying I quit my job because I have to care for my child, and I think all of those people just think that there's no other option. But there totally is, and I think me doing it is going to help other people in the same situation be able to do it as well, and if it does take them five years to get to the point where they're making an income and who cares, like it's, you're still making a change and I think as well. One of the biggest things for me was the community. So like having the support from like yourself and everyone else like I might have times where I like, where I'm like oh my gosh, I can't do this anymore and I'm so tired and I can't even send out messages, but then we've got accountability chats and I'm like no, I said I was going to send messages today, I'm going to do it, um, and everyone is just so lovely and being able to kind of meet up at events and different things.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's just given. It's given me something for me again and I don't just feel like mum or a parent carer. Um, I feel like I've actually got a purpose, um, and I've said to you before, like I don't feel like this is my true purpose in life. I feel like I'm going to help all these people, and then there's other stuff that I want to do as well. So, yeah, I think I just want to. I just want people to understand that it is possible and, although you might have a hectic life and you might be at appointments all day and doing everything, you can literally spend an hour a day. That's all it is, and you can do it in 15 minute time slots, get up 15 minutes early, send some messages, speak to people um, so it's totally possible. And I think, yeah, I just want to help other people that think that there's no way out and they're kind of stuck in that that life, that that's not the case yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:I'm so happy that you've that. You've shared all that, because that's one of the biggest reservations that people have, don't they? When they start this business, they think, oh, I've just not got time, I've got this, I've got that. And I always think in my head just look at, amanda, if someone could walk a day in your shoes, no one would ever say they were busy again, would they? And could you?
Speaker 1:You just, I know you mentioned about being at appointments all day and stuff on on sundays, but just for the people who are watching. So, whether it be um someone who's in a similar situation as you, who might be a parent, carer, or someone who's thinking, oh, I've got a really demanding job, or my kids are feral, whatever, whatever it is, um, talk us through like a little bit, like outside of the business. What are the typical things that come up in your day where you could easily just make an excuse, but, but you don't so, such as appointments, as an example, building your business next to your daughter's hospital bed, like. What are the typical typical things in the day that you do that um are a challenge, time wise, but you just don't make excuses about?
Speaker 2:I think. I think probably the main one for us is obviously esme. So, because she's got very complex health needs, she gets recovering chest infections, um, when esme gets even a little bit ill, it's kind of touch and go as to whether she's going to end up in hospital on oxygen or not, um, which a lot of people are probably like oh my gosh, that's so sad, like, but it's just our life, that's, that's kind of our normal at this point, um. So, for instance, esme was at respite over the weekend, which is lovely because it meant that we had the whole weekend to spend with Noah. Um, but she's come back from respite yesterday and, although she's been doing great, like, kind of over the last week, she's come back and, um, she was struggling a little bit last night and I was like, oh, here we go, this is us kind of back. Um, so on a day-to-day she can literally go from not to 100 so quickly she can be absolutely smiley, happy, and then the next minute her breathing's off and we're in hospital. Um, and that can be quite a regular occurrence.
Speaker 2:Last year we were in hospital at least twice a month, every single month. Um, we spent 10 weeks in hospital in the summer, and I think if, looking at that, I had just went oh no, I'm in hospital with Esme, I'm just going to stop my business now my business would never grow ever. And the reason that I want to do this business is so that we've got money and time, freedom as a family to not have to worry about those moments, and so just like a little bit of clarity in that. So last year, when we were in hospital for 10 weeks, my husband, kieran, had to quit his job, and a lot of people are probably like, oh, like how, but we have another child and it's not fair on him to be like, oh, you just have to go to your nannies every day because we have to have someone in hospital. It's just not possible. Um. So I think, like four or five weeks into the hospital stay, and Kieran had to quit his job as well, and so he's now part of the travel business because we've decided that we're going to do this together, um, and that we're gonna. We're gonna just build our business from home because it's our only option, um, but yeah, so Esme can end up in hospital literally so quickly.
Speaker 2:Um, I think the other things are Esme has quite a lot of appointments. So she's got physio appointments and we get loads of appointments in for, like her eyesight um, if she has been ill, we've maybe got different appointments that we need to go to after she's been in hospital. Um, she's potentially going in for, like, a major hip surgery next year, which is going to mean even more weeks in hospital, um, so that's probably just kind of some of it on her part, um. And I think the other thing is that when we get weather like this, it sounds so stupid, but Esme was at respite of the weekend and the weather was so nice and I was like I'm not gonna sit in all day and build my business when actually we could be out enjoying the sun.
Speaker 2:So we spent all weekend out and about doing different things and it got to like nine o'clock at night, got no one to bed and I was like I've not done anything on my business and I quite easily could have just went.
Speaker 2:Now I'm going to go to bed, I'll do some tomorrow, but instead I sat up at that time and I made sure that I messaged people, I made sure that I had posts on um and that I just worked my business at that point and I think knowing that the only way my business is going to grow is to stay consistent is kind of what drives me to keep going. Um, because I don't want to get to a point where I sit there and I think, oh, I've not done anything on my business for two weeks, because then I'm like, well, why am I doing this in the first place? Um. So yeah, I think it's just about remembering the reason that you started the business, um, and that, even if your consistency is maybe not so like, I aim to send like quite a lot of messages out when, like, starting new conversations like 30 people a day, um, so even if you only send five a day, at least you're doing something, um.
Speaker 1:So I think it's just about remembering that yeah, I love that, like just essentially so, at the end of the day, if you're going to start an online business, there's a reason.
Speaker 1:Why isn't there, whether it be, absolutely the freedom, the money, the community, whatever, and ultimately, if you, if you sign up to it and you don't do it like what, there's actually no point, really, isn't it? So, yeah, thank you for sharing. So I think it's just going to help people massively, because I kept on seeing um in the comments as well, like, oh yeah, this is so relatable and, yeah, this is how I feel, and some people might already be in the business and and feeling that way. And you mentioned before about hitting the top two percent in the industry. So what does that mean and what did that mean for you when you hit that?
Speaker 2:So being in the top two percent of the industry basically means, obviously, that I've got so. In Growth and Hustle Network, that is when you've got 10 people in your organization. Um, so I've got 10 people in mine currently, um, and I mean I'm still growing my business, but I think for me it just meant that everything that I was doing over the last year and a half is actually working. Um, I do get doubts all the time and I'm like, oh, it's not growing fast, which means I must be doing something wrong. And I don't think that's not growing fast, which means I must be doing something wrong. And I don't think that's the case at all. I think it is just the timeline and I think I was meant to do this, and I know that, regardless of how long it takes me, I'm never gonna quit. And so I think getting to that top two percent was just the kind of achievement that I needed to kind of spur me on a little bit and be like no, I've helped 10 people so far, so I can now go on to help hundreds and thousands of people.
Speaker 2:Um, so, yeah, I think it was just that having that achievement and kind of being recognized for the fact that, yes, network marketing is hard and I think in my last network marketing position I never signed anyone up. I didn't go down down that part of um network marketing at all and, as I say, I came away from it thinking, oh, I'm a total failure because I can't do it. Um, but I mean it's. You'll find people that like there's people that are like directors that will come on here and say, oh, I got to director in a year and I'm only at the top two percent, which is 10 people. But to me that it's such a massive achievement because they don't have the same lifestyle that I've got. So being able to still get to that point within a year and a half for me is is just amazing. Um, obviously I have got big goals and I am going to become a director one day. Um, but if it takes me a little bit longer, then that's totally fine yeah, do you know what?
Speaker 1:because, like you said, everyone's on their own time scales. And probably one of the things that you struggle you mentioned before that you struggled with comparison, weren't you? You was comparing your life versus other people's and like everyone does it, don't they? Sometimes I look at people and I'm like, oh gosh, like if only I was like on a plane every week or if I didn't have to, you know, like get up at all, because I've got an 11 month old who's still up all night, like she doesn't sleep through the night. She's never slept through the night since.
Speaker 1:And it's just like you can look at other people. It's just easy, isn't it? Just to compare yourself, whereas if you're just in your own lane, you've got your own goals and you're in it for the long haul. So at the end of the day, it's a business. Let's be frank. You're not. It's not a get rich quick scheme. And people come in, they join and we tell them that, don't we? We tell them it's not get rich quick scheme, but ultimately you're gonna, you're gonna reap the rewards of the work that you put in. And you are putting that work in and, like someone's just said, you are such an inspiration and your kids are so lucky to have a mum like you do.
Speaker 1:You know what? I don't know if I actually I don't know if know actually tell you this at an event I don't know if I've actually told you this at an event I might have done. You might just like we'll just hear it again. Anyway an event that we both went to and someone attended and they took their guests with them and the guests turned around and said, gosh, imagine if that was your mom. Like, imagine if that. And I can't believe I've never told you, just just reminded me then, um, but is there anything about the business? I know you've mentioned a few things like that, you do like about it, but did anything exceed your expectations that you just thought, wow, I didn't expect it to be like that. Was there anything that sort of stood out to you or was it just sort of as expected when you came in?
Speaker 2:I think probably the support. Um, I think you always like we, we tell everyone oh, you get access to this amazing community of people, and I think for quite a lot of people it might be that you join an organization and you get told that and then you don't actually get as much support as what you think you're gonna get. Um, but I think, like with the growth and hustle, like the support that we all give each other is absolutely incredible. And, as I say, I've been, I've been there many a times where I'm like, yay, well done, you're doing amazing. And inside I'm like, why is that not me? And so I think it's so hard for people to. Obviously the comparison is a massive thing, but it's so nice to just be able to uplift other people as well. And I think everyone is doing their own thing. They're in this journey for their own reasons. So to see other people act like absolutely smashing, it is just incredible to watch. And I think everyone that's in the growth and hustle network just I think everyone's got the same feelings around it. Everyone wants to see each other like reach their goals and build that massive team, and I think having that community is just incredible. And, like with everything we've been through over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2:I think I'm in loads of communities for parents that have got kids with disabilities, which is amazing for having those conversations about Esme and Noah and everything that's going on there. But being able to have this support group just for me, it just makes me feel like so nice and like I'm part of this greater, this greater thing that that. Yeah, it just feels like it's, makes me feel like so nice and like I'm part of this greater, this greater thing that that. Yeah, it just feels like it's for me and it's something that I'm doing for myself and for my family, without kind of discussing all of the everything else that's going on in the background. So I think, yeah, the support that we get access to and obviously we've got the website, we've got our training portals and we do loads of events and things as well.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, you're never left on your own and I think that's what people need. Like I could quite easily have quit this business like three, four months in because I didn't feel like I was getting anywhere. And, as you say, we tell people it's not a get rich quick scheme, but everyone kind of expects that they're going to come in and they're going to make a little bit of money at the beginning and be like, yeah, this is going to work. But actually when you don't, it's so easy to just be like, nah, this is not for me, I'm going to quit. Um. So I think having that support there when you are ready to be like, oh no, I'm going to leave, is kind of what you need to just push you forward and just stay in the business. Um. So yeah, definitely, the community and the support that we get access to is just incredible.
Speaker 1:Yeah definitely, I think I'd agree with that as well. And um, just one other question, as I was curious to know if you could give someone who's looking at the business any bit of advice. What advice would you give to that person?
Speaker 2:probably just to take the risk, just do it. I think that's the main thing, and I think I sat on it for so long and you always hear everyone saying it that, oh, I wish I'd started sooner. But I genuinely do. Um, I just think, like if I'd started a year earlier, like where would I be now? Um, and I think it is so hard to just think about all the excuses constantly, but ultimately, I think the main question is where do you want to be in five years time? Because if you want to be in exactly the same place, then keep doing what you're doing, but ultimately, if you don't, then you've got to do something.
Speaker 2:Um, and success is not going to come from just sitting doing nothing. You are going to have to work hard, but ultimately, you need to just take that first step and just do it. Um, I've been there, I've googled everything and I'm not doing it. No, I'm not doing it, and honestly, it was. It was the best decision I've made, and I can sit here now saying that, yes, I'm not where I want to be, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't change starting ever. So I think it is just about taking that risk. You need to just get out of your comfort zone and just do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. Thank you so much, amanda. Like you have been absolutely incredible. It's such a pleasure working with you every single day and I cannot wait to see where you take your business and all the families that you help in the process as well. So, thanks so much. Enjoy the rest of your day and I'll catch up with you soon. Thank you bye.
